• Home
  • Latest
  • Fortune 500
  • Finance
  • Tech
  • Leadership
  • Lifestyle
  • Rankings
  • Multimedia
PoliticsDonald Trump

Trump regrets talking to the ‘red haired weirdo from Australia’ as billionaire Mar-a-Lago member cooperates with special counsel probe, reports say

Paolo Confino
By
Paolo Confino
Paolo Confino
Reporter
Down Arrow Button Icon
Paolo Confino
By
Paolo Confino
Paolo Confino
Reporter
Down Arrow Button Icon
October 23, 2023, 5:13 PM ET
Photo of Anthony Pratt
Anthony Pratt has been interviewed twice by special counsel Jack Smith, who is investigating the classified-documents case brought against the former president. Carla Gottgens/Bloomberg via Getty Images

Among the most explosive allegations in the ongoing indictments of former President Donald Trump is that he shared state secrets with Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt. The Australian news program 60 Minutes reported this weekend on audio recordings it obtained that revealed Pratt’s “extraordinary dealings” with the former president. 

Pratt, Australia’s third-richest person, allegedly learned state secrets about the U.S. military’s nuclear submarines from the former president, as ABC News first reported earlier this month, citing unnamed sources. Trump has refuted the allegations, posting on Truth Social over the weekend that his conversations with the “red haired weirdo from Australia” centered on “creating jobs in Ohio and Pennsylvania.”

According to ABC News, Pratt, the billionaire owner of a cardboard box company, learned the classified information while speaking with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s country club in West Palm Beach, Fla. During the conversation, the former president allegedly told Pratt two pieces of critical information about the U.S.’s nuclear submarines: how many nuclear warheads are aboard each submarine and how close they can get to a Russian sub without being detected, according to ABC News. Pratt then shared that information with around 45 other people, ABC claimed. 

To date, Pratt has not been charged with wrongdoing, and it is unclear if Pratt believed Trump’s alleged statements or if they were even accurate. Still, media reports noted that Pratt was interviewed twice by special counsel Jack Smith, who is investigating the classified documents case brought against the former president. 

Pratt inherited a very successful cardboard box company from his father

Like Trump, Pratt had a wealthy father who built much of the family’s business. The father, Robert Pratt, was an Australian businessman who founded the cardboard and recycling company Visy. An article in the Australian Financial Review likened the Pratt family’s ascent to that of the Murdochs and the Packers, globally known Australian billionaire clans who have faced their own share of controversy. 

Pratt, who has a net worth of $9 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, is the owner of Pratt Industries, a box company that was among the first to manufacture cardboard from recycled materials. He is also the executive chair of Visy, the Australian arm of the family cardboard box business his father Robert started. While the younger Pratt was in his thirties, his father sent him to oversee a paper mill in Macon, Ga., and while the family ended up selling that plant, Pratt’s ties to the U.S. have remained strong ever since. Today he leads the Atlanta-based Pratt Industries. He is married to American Claudine Revere, whose company is a caterer for Trump’s Central Park ice-skating rink, according to the Australian Financial Review.

Pratt Industries does $6 billion in revenue annually and has about 10,000 U.S. employees, according to the company’s website. (Visy did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Fortune. Multiple calls to Pratt Industries were directed to a nonfunctioning voicemail box.)

Inherited wealth, used to cultivate relationships

Once Trump was elected president in 2016, Pratt undertook a successful campaign to enter the former president’s social, business, and political circles, according to the New York Times. 

Pratt shelled out at least $200,000 for a membership to Mar-a-Lago, once spent $1 million to attend a $50,000-a-head event where Trump was present, and even took out a full-page ad in the Wall Street Journal praising Trump’s policies for creating manufacturing jobs in the Midwest, according to the Australian Financial Review. 

Donald Trump (left) shakes hands with Australian businessman Anthony Pratt
In 2019, then-President Donald Trump attended the opening of a new factory for Pratt Industries, which is owned by Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt.
SAUL LOEB/AFP via Getty Images

Like the former president, Pratt, who splits his time between a penthouse in New York and a house in Atlanta, has been a vocal supporter of American manufacturing. “We want to be the last man standing here,” he told the Australian Financial Review in 2015. “A lot of companies sold out of America, but not us.” When Pratt Industries opened a new factory in Ohio in 2019, then-President Trump visited the plant with the Australian prime minister. 

“We’re here to celebrate a great opening and a great gentleman,” Trump said at the event, adding, “Anthony is one of the most successful men in the world—perhaps Australia’s most successful man.”

For a while, that relationship seemed to pay off. The Trump-era tax cuts pushed through in 2017 reportedly helped Pratt’s personal net worth increase by about $2.7 billion Australian dollars, roughly $1.9 billion U.S., according to the Sydney Morning Herald. 

Pratt’s relationship with Trump isn’t the only one to have brought him success, according to multiple media reports. Pratt once struck a deal with Home Depot CEO Bernie Marcus while the two were on a private tour of the Georgia Aquarium, to which they had both donated, according to the 2015 Australian Financial Review profile. And, before Trump soured on him, Pratt used to bring his billionaire friends to Mar-a-Lago, including mining billionaire and Australia’s richest person Gina Rinehart, and C-suite customers like Marcus. 

When asked by an Australian reporter where Pratt expected the future of his company’s business to come from, he replied, “It is all about relationships.”

The Fortune 500 Innovation Forum will convene Fortune 500 executives, U.S. policy officials, top founders, and thought leaders to help define what’s next for the American economy, Nov. 16-17 in Detroit. Apply here.
About the Author
Paolo Confino
By Paolo ConfinoReporter

Paolo Confino is a former reporter on Fortune’s global news desk where he covers each day’s most important stories.

See full bioRight Arrow Button Icon

Latest in Politics

Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025

Most Popular

Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Finance
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam
By Fortune Editors
October 20, 2025
Fortune Secondary Logo
Rankings
  • 100 Best Companies
  • Fortune 500
  • Global 500
  • Fortune 500 Europe
  • Most Powerful Women
  • Future 50
  • World’s Most Admired Companies
  • See All Rankings
Sections
  • Finance
  • Fortune Crypto
  • Features
  • Leadership
  • Health
  • Commentary
  • Success
  • Retail
  • Mpw
  • Tech
  • Lifestyle
  • CEO Initiative
  • Asia
  • Politics
  • Conferences
  • Europe
  • Newsletters
  • Personal Finance
  • Environment
  • Magazine
  • Education
Customer Support
  • Frequently Asked Questions
  • Customer Service Portal
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms Of Use
  • Single Issues For Purchase
  • International Print
Commercial Services
  • Advertising
  • Fortune Brand Studio
  • Fortune Analytics
  • Fortune Conferences
  • Business Development
  • Group Subscriptions
About Us
  • About Us
  • Editorial Calendar
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Diversity And Inclusion
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map
  • About Us
  • Editorial Calendar
  • Press Center
  • Work At Fortune
  • Diversity And Inclusion
  • Terms And Conditions
  • Site Map
  • Facebook icon
  • Twitter icon
  • LinkedIn icon
  • Instagram icon
  • Pinterest icon

Latest in Politics

Trump at a podium
PoliticsIran
Trump will address the nation on Wednesday on the Iran war Wednesday—here’s what to expect
By Eva RoytburgApril 1, 2026
55 minutes ago
Luigi Mangione’s federal trial has been pushed back to October in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO
LawMurder
Luigi Mangione’s federal trial has been pushed back to October in killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO
By The Associated Press, Michael R. Sisak and Larry NeumeisterApril 1, 2026
4 hours ago
trump
CommentaryEPA
The EPA just valued a human life at $0. That’s not just a moral crisis — it’s a market crisis
By Andrew BeharApril 1, 2026
9 hours ago
pelosi
CommentaryElections
Congress has a lower approval rating than Hitler in some polls. And we just keep voting for the same 2 parties
By Stu StrumwasserApril 1, 2026
11 hours ago
Photo: Donald and Melania Trump.
PoliticsMarkets
Trump has no good options in Iran—here are 5 of them ahead of his speech to the nation tonight
By Jim EdwardsApril 1, 2026
11 hours ago
MUSCAT, OMAN - MARCH 22: The Albina Bulk carrier sits anchored on March 22, 2026 at Sultan Qaboos Port in Muscat, Oman.President Donald Trump had threatened to attack Iran's energy infrastructure if it did not end its de facto blockade of the Strait of Hormuz by just before midnight GMT of March 23. A subsequent statement from President Trump said the U.S. and Iran had held "very good and productive conversations regarding a complete and total resolution of our hostilities in the Middle East," and that he would postpone any attacks on Iranian energy infrastructure for five days. Maritime traffic through the strait, which conveys about 20% of the world's oil and gas, has mostly come to a halt after the joint U.S.-Israeli war with Iran that began on February 28.
EnergyIran
Trump has a labyrinth of bad options in the Strait of Hormuz. Here’s why some warn that walking away could transcend ‘our defeat in Vietnam’
By Jordan BlumMarch 31, 2026
23 hours ago

Most Popular

Jerome Powell says the $39 trillion national debt is ‘not unsustainable,’ but warns the trajectory ‘will not end well’
Economy
Jerome Powell says the $39 trillion national debt is ‘not unsustainable,’ but warns the trajectory ‘will not end well’
By Fortune EditorsMarch 30, 2026
2 days ago
Two-thirds of parents say their adult Gen Z kids still rely on them financially  for support—even though it's putting them under strain
Success
Two-thirds of parents say their adult Gen Z kids still rely on them financially  for support—even though it's putting them under strain
By Fortune EditorsMarch 31, 2026
1 day ago
Kevin O'Leary says if you earn $68,000 a year and follow this rule, you'll retire a millionaire
Personal Finance
Kevin O'Leary says if you earn $68,000 a year and follow this rule, you'll retire a millionaire
By Fortune EditorsMarch 31, 2026
1 day ago
A man used AI to call 3,000 Irish bartenders to track the cost of Guinness. Now pubs are lowering their prices to compete
AI
A man used AI to call 3,000 Irish bartenders to track the cost of Guinness. Now pubs are lowering their prices to compete
By Fortune EditorsMarch 30, 2026
2 days ago
Markets cheer as Trump threatens to abandon Iran war, but Jamie Dimon sides with allies: ‘Win this thing and clean up the straits’
Energy
Markets cheer as Trump threatens to abandon Iran war, but Jamie Dimon sides with allies: ‘Win this thing and clean up the straits’
By Fortune EditorsMarch 31, 2026
1 day ago
Hiring just hit a level not seen since the economy was ‘closed down literally’ during COVID, top economist says
Economy
Hiring just hit a level not seen since the economy was ‘closed down literally’ during COVID, top economist says
By Fortune EditorsMarch 31, 2026
1 day ago

© 2026 Fortune Media IP Limited. All Rights Reserved. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy | CA Notice at Collection and Privacy Notice | Do Not Sell/Share My Personal Information
FORTUNE is a trademark of Fortune Media IP Limited, registered in the U.S. and other countries. FORTUNE may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Offers may be subject to change without notice.